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03-Dec-85 22:36:24
Fm: Francis Lapeyre 70665,207
To: All
Volume 4, No. 26 of PC Magazine just arrived, and had the answer to my software
problems: KEY-FAKE.COM. It allows you to "fake" a program into thinking it got
just a few bytes of "keyboard" input from a batch file (or elsewhere). Problem
is: (1) the BASIC program to create the .COM file is missing the last line,
apparently. (2) PC's modem (212-696-0360) rings & rings -- I set the Hayes to
ATS7=60 with no answer.
05-Dec-85 08:46:33
Fm: dave rothman 70240,372
To: Earle Robinson 70135,141 (X)
if irecall correctly, keyfake lets u throw certain keystrokes into programs
when the programs are called...its sorta like redirecting input but the
difference is that when u redirect input, the entire 'session' of keystrokes
must be in the auxilliary file. in other words, u can't redirect some input, u
gotta put in everything including an exit commandto blow u back to dos.
keyfake lets u throw in some keystrokes and then gives u back command in the
program u r runnning.
one reason i would like to get a copy of keyfake is for 123. u can't redirect
input into 123 (plus even if u could, u wouldnt be able to do anything cuz u
would have to includes a '/qy' so that u wouldnt hang).
i have a pced syn called 'load':
syn load 'cd\123^chmod -n %1.wks^123^chmod -h %1.wks'
it lets me unprotect certain hidden 123 worksheets which contain certain
sensitive financial data (i taught my girlfriend everything about the pc,
except for hidden files). unfortunately, with this setup, the one thing i
still have to type when i get into 123 is '/fr%1<r>' (obviously %1 is the now
unprtected file). with keyfake, i should be able to import that char string
into 123, thus having a working, totally integrated macro...dave
05-Dec-85 21:15:46
Fm: Jim McKeown 74666,511
To: Earle Robinson 70135,141 (X)
I don't know exactly what KEY-FAKE does, but from the discussion it seemed to
be very similar to KBSTAK. KBSTAK was written by Jim Kyle to trap int 16 and
insert characters from a buffer in response to calls to that int. The buffer
is filled from a file named in the invocation of KBSTAK. It seems to work
beautifully with one minor quibble: it also picks up the CTRL-Z eof marker. I
have taken to using DEBUG to pull that off the file, but that is definitely
inconvenient -- although it is also proper given a strict interpretation of the
function of KBSTAK.
jcm
05-Dec-85 17:33:22
Fm: dave rothman 70240,372
To: er 70135,141 (X)
i got a copy pf keyfake and stuck it in that syn i mentioned. here it is:
syn load 'cd\123^chmod -n %1.wks^keyfake "/fr%1" 13 ^123^chmod -h %1.wks'
it basically unhides a .wks file and loads it into 123. then when i exit, it
hides it again
06-Dec-85 16:00:39
Fm: dave rothman 70240,372
To: Nelson Ford 71355,470
here are a coupla other 'slick' syns:
syn add 'nsq %1.doc^lu -u c:\doc\docfils %1.dqc^*vdel %1.d?c'
syn get 'lu -e c:\doc\docfils %1.dqc ^*nusq %1.dqc ^li %1.doc'
syn help 'lq -qfp c:\doc\docfils %1.dqc'
syn load 'cd\123^chmod -n %1.wks^keyfake "/fr%1" 13 ^123^chmod -h %1.wks'
syn cis 'call cis'
syn call 'b-off ^yam call %1^b-off'
the add, get & help all help to manage my doc files. ie. 'help
kbfix' gets it out of a packed lib and shows it to me...etc...
07-Dec-85 12:02:20
Fm: dave rothman 70240,372
To: Earle Robinson 70135,141
following is that section of my script:
syn call 'b-off ^yam call %1^b-off'
syn cis 'call cis'
syn fid 'call fid'
syn stk 'call stk'
syn hang 'call hang'
syn mci 'call mci'
syn morn 'call morn'
syn fritz 'call fritz'
by having the 'call' command and thus not having the b-on etc business
repeated, i save something like 140 chars....dave
07-Dec-85 14:32:47
Fm: Dave Hoagland 72365,42
To: dave rothman 70240,372 (X)
One other approach...I disable/enable burnout in a batch file when I run
YAM. In addition, I have a couple of function keys defined in phones.t to
toggle burnout on/off if I want to change while I'm in YAM. set fx "@!burnout
0" and set fy "@!burnout 10920" (where fx & fy are the respective function
keys) does it nicely. ...DaveH
07-Dec-85 16:00:54
Fm: dave rothman 70240,372
To: Dave Hoagland 72365,42 (X)
u bring up a pt that i discussed here a while ago. i set burnout both outside
yam and inside yam. i turn it off before entering and then after dl'ing some
msgs yam calls my editor:
!burnout 15000
obey "!edix /mail/cis%d" as u can c, i turn burnout back on
just before calling the editor.
i do it this way cuz sometimes i interupt scripts so i know that whenever
INSIDE yam, burnout is off and whenever OUTSIDE yam (either after exiting or
when calling something else) burnout is on).
07-Dec-85 17:30:59
Fm: Ed Vielmetti 76174,2061
To: dave rothman 70240,372
In the spirit of CED synonym collection, here's my favorites:
SYN go cd \%1
SYN up cd ..
SYN timer time<cr^%1 %2 %3 %4 %5^time<cr
The first two are for navigating around the hard disk; the last is
for benchmarking programs (the cr file contains a single carriage
return and is put on a ramdisk).
--Ed V, UMich
08-Dec-85 18:47:07
Fm: dave rothman 70240,372
To: all
this may interest some of you. i put together a nice little application
combining these utilities: chmod, keyfake, ced, 123 & yam. the specific
application may not be useful 2 u, but a generalization may.
the situation is 1 i have described previously on the sig. i call 1 of my
investment services & get quotes (NAV's) & account info (#shares). i call &
at a voice prompt, i hit the touch t1s on my phone & the voice computer @
the other end 'talks' back the info. clearly this is a pain, so i had yam
do it. the latest enhancement is that whereas i used to have 2 write down
the info on a piece of paper, i can now type them back to yam which writes
out a temp file that 123 will read.
now the .wks file which has the financial data is hidden, so i have a CED
syn, 'load' which unhides it & throws it into 123. keyfake lets me load it
into 123 via the syn rather than having 2 type '/fr<filename>'. the syn,
'fix', adds the ^Z if it's missing from the temp data file. finally, there
is an autostart macro in 123 (\0) which imports the tmp file.
>>here are the syns:
fix 'copy %1 + (026) >nul'
load 'cd\123^chmod -n %1.wks^fix %1.prn^keyfake "/fr%1" 13^123^chmod -h %1.wks'
>>here is yam script:
fid: speed 1200;mput "ATM2DT18005446600;\r";sleep 120
!del c:\123\fidtmp.prn
>>c:\123\fidtmp.prn
acceptl s1 "Hit <CR> when remote system is ready [(q)uit]: "
set s2 "ATDT*1*21#;\r";set s3 "Magellan_NAV: "; gosub fidsub
set s2 "ATDT*1*05#;\r";set s3 "Trend_NAV: "; gosub fidsub
set s2 "ATDT*1*40#;\r";set s3 "Mrtg_NAV: ";gosub fidsub
set s2 "ATDT*2*21*<acct num>*<pw>#;\r";set s3 "Mag_Shs:";gosub fidsub
set s2 "ATDT*2*05*<acct num>*<pw>#;\r";set s3 "Trend_Shs:";gosub fidsub
set s2 "ATDT*2*40*<acct num>*<pw>#;\r";set s3 "Mrtg_Shs:";gosub fidsub
echo "\r"
hangup: close; speed 1200; putw "ATZ\r";off
fidsub: mput %s2; sleep 40
obey "acceptl s1 %s3"
if is1,q echo "Quittin..." goto hangup
echo "%s1"
return BTW, thanks to -er for a helpful yam suggestion!
08-Dec-85 23:35:27
Fm: Basil Copeland 71656,472
To: dave rothman 70240,372 (X)
Thnx for the tips. I don't use yam, but keyfake is a great enhancement for
ced. I don't like long filenames, even in syns, so I renamed keyfake to
kf.com. Had a hard time getting keyfake to work under DoubleDOS. Found that
if I loaded it in my autoexec.bat file before loading DD, it ran well in both
memory partitions. Don't know if that would hold for other multitasking
environments, but thought I would pass it on. --Basil
09-Dec-85 09:33:15
Fm: Basil Copeland 71656,472
To: dave rothman 70240,372 (X)
Your msg reminded me of the one you left a couple o